16 comments

  • kepano 59 minutes ago
    There are a few companies in this space, notably Ecovative, who have been trying to make mycelium-based packaging for almost two decades.

    The problem is that it takes around 7 days for each piece of packaging to "grow", and the finished part is heavy and not compressible so it adds significant cost in manufacturing, storage and transit. And these costs don't get any better with scale.

    For those reasons, mycelium packaging hasn't seen much adoption beyond being used as a marketing story for high-priced small goods. Environmentally forward companies have tended towards paper-based solutions like molded fiber.

  • jcims 1 hour ago
    Just a side note. I started growing mushrooms a couple of years ago.

    Very interesting and fulfilling hobby, they are incredibly interesting critters. Takes a little bit of dedication to get started but once you start seeing them fruit and making your own substrate it's quite inexpensive and a lot of fun. I have a feeling lots of folks in this community would really like it.

    Basic starter package is a 'monotub', selection of spores, grain for spawning, substrate for fruiting and miscellaneous bits and bobs for handling, hydrating, maintaining temps and cultivating. North Spore and Midwest Grow Kits are both reputable and reliable suppliers.

    Tons of resources on YouTube as you might expect. One of my favorites is Southwest Mushrooms - https://www.youtube.com/@SouthwestMushrooms

  • orwin 2 hours ago
    My sister worked as an intern on mycelium as fertilizer. Basically, using cover crops create a small mycelium layer that helps plant grow and reduce fertilizer use (by fixing nitrogen probably). Her job was to find molecules that would make the mycelium, and only the mycelium, grow quicker.

    That's a very interesting field to study, and it seems promising.

  • 8-prime 4 hours ago
    Looks really cool, though I don't know if the name is conducive to business. With just the URL I would not have clicked to see that the business is about.
    • Mordisquitos 3 hours ago
      Ironically I only came to this HN post and clicked on the URL because of the name. At first I misunderstood the description and thought they were doing industrial-scale packaging of magical mushroom mycelium.
      • AntiqueFig 16 minutes ago
        Yeah same, I'm kinda sad now it's only packaging.
      • blackhaz 3 hours ago
        That's a URL bait!
    • Pine_Mushroom 3 hours ago
      Years ago I ran an ecommerce site for gourmet and medicinal mushrooms. We certainly had nothing to do with illegal mushrooms, but I liberally sprinkled the word 'magic' where ever possible. Also the words 'Ann+Arbor'... It seemed to drive some traffic.
    • vages 3 hours ago
      Any PR is good PR, I guess?
  • oniony 3 hours ago
    There are already companies that use packaging made from formed paper and sugarcane. I would be interested to see what mycelium packaging offers over this.

    E.g. https://www.jishan-group.com/pulp-products.

    • cogman10 1 hour ago
      In the old days, wood shaving and even popcorn were the packing material of choice.

      The reason styrofoam is used is because it's cheaper (main) and it doesn't decompose when wet.

    • elil17 3 hours ago
      I believe the mushroom packaging is more like a foam, so it may be able to better protect products. Additionally, it may have a more "premium" feeling/appearance vs. pulp packaging.
      • oniony 2 hours ago
        Looking at the images, it looks less premium to me than the smoother mouled paper inserts I've seen on electronic products. You could be right on with the foam aspect though.
        • elil17 1 hour ago
          Well there are multiple types of molded paper inserts. Egg carton-type material on the cheap end, and that super smooth stuff that Apple uses on the other (these generally have additives in them - they aren't just paper). In terms of "premium"ness this sits in the middle.
  • xattt 2 hours ago

        > Mushroom® Packaging, grown from natural mushroom mycelium and agricultural by-products …
    
    Does anyone know the agricultural byproducts are?
    • matsemann 35 minutes ago
      How is Mushroom something you can put (r) after?
    • Bayart 2 hours ago
      Certainly dung. A common substrate for growing mushroom is a straw or shredded wood depending on the species plus manure.
      • Rooster61 17 minutes ago
        Not certainly. A LARGE number of fungi grow just fine without manure. I think this is a common misconception since agaricus bisporus (portobello, bella, white, cremini, button) need it to grow well, and it is the most commonly human-grown fungus by a long shot.
    • Mistletoe 1 hour ago
      It says it is the woody core of hemp.
      • londons_explore 36 minutes ago
        Sounds like a thing you could just make paper and cardboard out of directly...
  • readingnews 4 hours ago
    Not sure if they were the first, or whatever, but this really seems like a breakthrough technology / methodology. How many cardboard boxes do we use a day? The mind boggles.

    Totally cool stuff.

    • adzm 4 hours ago
      This seems more like a replacement for Styrofoam rather than cardboard boxes, though it could certainly be used in places we already use cardboard inserts. But probably still need a cardboard box on the outside. Thankfully we can grow those too!!
      • embedding-shape 4 hours ago
        > This seems more like a replacement for Styrofoam rather than cardboard boxes

        It seems rigid though, more akin to cardboard than soft styrofoam. I don't see anything about how dampening it is, but from the pictures I also assumed it was more like cardboard than styrofoam. Maybe the color is deceiving me though.

        • zdragnar 2 hours ago
          https://magicalmushroom.com/mushroom-packaging

          Under "Features" it explicitly calls out polystyrene as what it is meant to replace, and under "Performance" they claim to provide for clients "that demand the same technical performance as the polystyrene we replace"

    • rithdmc 3 hours ago
      Dell have been using mycelium packaging for a while now - 2014 maybe? created in the US. Very interested to see this space go.
      • ndespres 2 hours ago
        Dell (and IKEA, and others) source from Ecovative who have been working on this for a while: https://ecovative.com/
        • microflash 51 minutes ago
          Nice, thanks for the link. Somehow, this weekend I’ve gone into the rabbit hole of mycelium packaging, a completely new and interesting topic for me. Need to check this out before my fascination wears off.
    • zdragnar 2 hours ago
      https://magicalmushroom.com/mushroom-packaging

      Under Features, it lists polystyrene products as what it replaces, not cardboard.

    • elil17 3 hours ago
      I don't think this is better for the environment than cardboard (if anything it is probably worse as a direct replacement for cardboard because cardboard already has a robust recycling supplychain). Rather, it is a replacement for plastic foam.
    • Tarq0n 4 hours ago
      Cardboard is mostly renewable, it's the applications where we combine it with plastic where alternatives are needed.
    • ekjhgkejhgk 3 hours ago
      This isn't different from cardboard. This is made from mushrooms, cardboard is made from trees. The real problem is plastics.
  • cachius 1 hour ago
    Nice, similar to https://www.traceless.eu who are pioneering biopolymers from grain residue, fitting into existing machines and workflows.

    They already supplied famous Rock am Ring festival with friespickers last year!

  • khat 12 minutes ago
    Now if they can get a mushroom that eats plastic to use it as fuel to grow the mycelium that would be even better.
  • nhinck3 4 hours ago
    Going on a little PR adventure today are we?
    • vintermann 2 hours ago
      This site is run by venture capitalists, I think it's part of the package as long as they don't pretend otherwise.
      • nhinck3 1 hour ago
        Yeah, I know it's just funny to see the coordinated effort across multiple sites.
        • matsemann 34 minutes ago
          Or, someone saw it on reddit, thought it was cool, and posted here? Aka classic going viral event, without anything nefarious.
  • vicentwu 52 minutes ago
    cool
  • intrasight 1 hour ago
    I like the web site. Using on mobile. Not as bland as most. I normally don't like animation but this one is done nicely.
  • amelius 3 hours ago
    Is it edible?
    • fanatic2pope 3 hours ago
      Maybe not by humans, but definitely by the various things living in your compost pile.
  • Joel_Mckay 2 hours ago
    Sounds like a great product, but a tough name in a business messaging context. The Customer Acquisition Cost for people that missed business culture fit rules can be extraordinarily high.

    Maybe some sort of additional corporate alias name with "Biocomposite" or "Sustainable" packaging related messaging. Also, one may want to contact Uline with a set of product sku that already fit generic shipping boxes for high-value items like wine bottles and laptop screens.

    Have a great day =3

  • larodi 3 hours ago
    how's this Europe's given factories (and all likeliness all else) is in UK?

    https://magicalmushroom.com/manufacturing/the-factories

    geographically, perhaps, not EU though. and not relevant to EU where there are at least several similar companies such as

    Grown.bio - Netherlands PermaFungi - Brussels (New 1,400 m² factory) RongoDesign - Romania Biomyc - Bulgaria

    perhaps more. So this title is super misleading - not first, not Europe's, but perhaps UK's

    • rithdmc 3 hours ago
      > geographically, perhaps, not EU though

      I figure that's why they said Europe's first industrial scale; not the EU's first industrial scale...

    • ekjhgkejhgk 3 hours ago
      > how's this Europe's given factories (and all likeliness all else) is in UK?

      You know that a company can own factories in other countries, yes?

      • larodi 19 minutes ago
        So which company owns what, how about you read the homepage twice, and we can discuss the facts.
    • schrijver 1 hour ago
      Thanks for the links ! Good to have an overview of the current crop turns out there is a factory near me
    • rcxdude 3 hours ago
      The UK is still in Europe, even if it's left the EU.
    • bromuro 3 hours ago
      It’s written in the linked page:

      “Europe's first industrial-scale mycelium packaging producer”.

    • netdevphoenix 1 hour ago
      EU <> Europe