8 comments

  • OrangePilled 9 minutes ago
    Previously:

    "US to embed Palantir AI across military" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47471655

    "The singularity".

  • Oarch 1 hour ago
    As a Brit, I've never had the sense the UK (specifically the City of London) has any genuine interest in tackling money laundering. I suspect our economy is structurally reliant upon us being extremely good at it.
    • fiftyacorn 22 minutes ago
      I think the power is knowing who is moving what and where
      • mosura 1 minute ago
        Our money laundering supports freedom, while theirs supports tyranny etc.

        I love the whole “unexplained wealth” concept the UK developed, curiously enough after Abramovich had been running around buying Chelsea etc. If you are friend to MI6 this week you are allowed to do anything, but if you get on their wrong side you will be Berezhovskied.

    • Lio 33 minutes ago
      Really? What are you basing that on?

      Having worked at FinTechs and in finance in general that doesn't ring true at all. The FCA definitely takes anti-money laundering checks quite seriously.

      e.g. (off the top of my head) NatWest were fined £264 million for AML breaches.

      I'm no expert by any means but if I wanted to flout the rules I'd definitely consider a few other juristictions before the City.

      • londons_explore 20 minutes ago
        AML tech is so primitive, it almost looks like it's designed that anyone 'in the know' will know how to not be detected.

        Eg. Most AML checks are done because someone wrote some triggering keyword in the payment reference field. Do we honestly think a criminal mastermind won't manage to come up with something else to write there?

        • multjoy 14 minutes ago
          The references are almost irrelevant. The banks + fintechs have far more depth than that.
        • Onavo 12 minutes ago
          The AML you are thinking of is designed to catch small time crooks and drug mules. They are not really designed (or more specifically deliberately obtuse towards) Slavic oligarch money. Not all "corruption" and money laundering are treated equally. Places like London (not to mention Jersey), Switzerland, and Singapore are more for good old fashioned siphoning-of-national-assets type of corruption where there's almost always a "clean" paper trail to back things up. Also, don't get tax dodging mixed with money laundering. There are plenty of processes required by OECD and similar orgs, e.g. the concepts of a LEI number, that are not really useful against real oligarch/state level money launderers.

          If you want an actual no-questions-asked romp of organized crime type of money I believe the current main contenders are the middle eastern states like Dubai (pre Iranian conflict at least).

          Rumor through the financial grapevine is that there are many GCC middle eastern royalty/pseudo-royalty currently under house arrest who are trying to do the opposite i.e. get their assets out of the country because their main bank accounts are frozen domestically. So basically real life Nigerian princes.

          (As for why they are under house arrest, it's kinda out of scope for HN but mostly because of domestic political purges, especially in Saudi Arabia from what I heard)

    • joe_mamba 51 minutes ago
      Isn't the whole point of the City of London, to be a legal money laundering economic zone, that brings banks, corporations, money and jobs to the UK?
  • Natfan 1 hour ago
  • xvxvx 8 minutes ago
    Are we seeing the beginning of super-corporations that will supersede nation states?
  • overvale 5 minutes ago
    Feelings about Palantir aside, this is a really misleading headline. The FCA has hired Palantir to "investigate the watchdog’s internal intelligence data", which presumably requires Palantir to have access to that sensitive data.

    Saying that Palantir is "reaching" into the British state, and then having the article image be "billionaire Donald Trump donor Peter Thiel" literally holding a wad of cash is... not exactly a high standard of reportage.

    • crimsoneer 4 minutes ago
      Guardian doing clickbaity headline specifically to infuriate their readers, I am shoketh
  • themafia 1 hour ago
    > Palantir has previously defended its work, saying it has led to about 99,000 extra operations being scheduled in the NHS

    No hard evidence of this was provided or is readily available.

    > helped UK police tackle domestic violence

    And precisely how was this done?

    > Palantir will have to destroy data after completion of the contract

    Contractual obligations that are not practically enforceable will not be honored. I don't think these individual administrative agencies have the acumen necessary to correctly negotiate these contracts.

    • remarkEon 40 minutes ago
      >And precisely how was this done?

      Can't find the article atm, but it was basically pre-crime from Minority Report (without the pre-cogs, obviously). They looked at large datasets and built a predictive model, correlating things like race and prior criminal history to infer who was more likely to re-offend. At scale, this works. Ethical issues abound, however.

      • themafia 32 minutes ago
        > At scale, this works.

        We're going to need a definition of "works." The false positive rate seems to be notable since those stories readily percolate into media whenever these schemes are implemented and the damage done from those is absolutely massive.

        The idea that criminals are likely to re-offend is not new. What to do about this has always been the challenge. Simply over policing this segment is not any type of solution. Unless, of course, you are invested in the "private prison" industry.

  • drtgh 1 hour ago
    > [Palantir] The Miami-based company, co-founded by the billionaire Donald Trump donor Peter Thiel

    And backed by In-Q-Tel, the CIA's venture capital (CIA, the Central Intelligence Agency of the US).

    https://fortune.com/2025/07/29/in-q-tel-cia-venture-capital-...

    • notepad0x90 12 minutes ago
      Even google was funded by In-Q-Tel.
  • therobots927 1 hour ago
    Alex Karp will be held accountable eventually. I can’t think of anyone more evil than that rat fucker
    • crimsoneer 40 minutes ago
      What's he done that's so evil...?
      • therobots927 34 minutes ago
        Oh I don’t know. Built a giant skynet surveillance apparatus used to kill kids in Gaza and enable ICE to strip search and rape undocumented immigrants?

        Do you live under a fucking rock? Or are you a rat fucker like him who sees western civilization as having god given authority to bulldoze everyone else?

    • unfortunatelyno 58 minutes ago
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